Log in

This dialog has been edited. I have changed the name of my correspondent and her family. Also, since in instant messaging the speakers often speak out of turn, I have put many of the broken parts of the paragraphs together. But I’ve tried to preserve the naturalness of the discussion (I didn’t even spellcheck it), and I have resisted the temptation to revise and better articulate my position, which was set forth (it should be remembered) in the heat of the moment.

Hey, how are you?

hey back
good, you? Read on...Collapse )

First and Second Orders of Business

1. Those of you who have requested membership, please take the time to introduce yourselves. It can be as long or short as you like, and names are optional. If you are uncomfortable giving your name, feel free to go by your username. Here's mine:

In 2008 I graduated summa cum laude from Spring Arbor University. Read on...Collapse )

2. Please take the time to read and comment on the Statement of Identity. If you can find nothing wrong with it (and I'm sure it needs revision), please write something like "As is."

Statement of Identity

NOTE: The first order of business for the LJ CSL Society is to consider and revise the wording and principles stated in this Statement of Identity.

It is my hope in creating this Livejournal community to make a place where a wide range of topics from many fields and disciplines (not limited to C.S. Lewis) can be discussed: from philosophy to literature, from theology to aesthetics.

And I also hope it to be a place not only for Christians--and by Christians I mean those who can say the Nicene Creed without violating their convictions--but for those of differing points of view. But, at the same time, non-Christians should not be offended when we speak as if to fellow believers. For this to be a "community" in any meaningful sense of the word, there must exist some sense of unity and at least some unspoken points of agreement.

By unspoken I do not mean taboo. I assume that non-Christians and Christians alike will often discuss the foundations of the Christian worldview. But unless each of us are to lay out the entire framework of our system of thought every time we post (which would be laborious, if not impossible), it is necessary to start somewhere. And without a group at least starting from the same premises, a community can have no identity.

There are other forums where people can flat out disparage and do battle with one another, and it would be best (lest we make straw men of our opponents' arguments) to contribute to those too, both individually and corporately. But here, in the LJ CSL Society, I desire to foster friendship and community, to seek the Truth together and to give serious thought to the claims of Christ on our hearts and minds.

So, to that end, I have sought to put a few easy principles on the table which, though not all of us may agree with them, all of us can agree to make the tacit presuppositions of our posts; so that (for the sake of intellectual honesty) if we contradict them, we must do so openly and not beg the question or speak as if it were assumed that the principle were false. Here they are:

  1. The pursuit of truth and wisdom is a worthy, and not a hopeless, pursuit.
  2. The claims of Jesus Christ are not to be taken lightly; and, if true, demand the absolute submission of the human heart and mind to Him and the utter rejection of any philosophy which is found to be intrinsically inconsistent with Christianity; and, if false, are of no value whatsoever.
  3. The works of C.S. Lewis are of great intellectual caliber and are worthy of rigorous study and debate.
  4. The Law of Identity is a true principle.
  5. Principium Contradictionis. The Principle of Contradiction is a true principle.
  6. The Law of Excluded Middle is a true principle. (I could not find a satisfactory definition online, so I'll have to try to define it myself.) Following from the Law of Contradiction, the Law of Excluded Middle states that, in a true dilemma, there can be no third possibility. E.g., "Either God exists or God does not exist"; "Either this woman is pregnant or she is not." This Law affirms the existence of true dilemmas, that not all of them can be shown to be false dilemmas.

Travis Lambert, ebric
LJ CSL Society Administrator